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jesperrr
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:50 pm Reply with quote
Registered User Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 264 Location: Denmark
I am a big fan of the preview window (ALT+CTRL+P) and use it as much as possible for static HTML files as well as Ruby on Rails development. I could use it a lot more, but there are a few bugs i'd like to have addressed as well as some tiny new tweaks:


1) When you toggle window (open, close, reopen), if window is docked, the window reopens in default width. 150 px is unusable for almost any web file. Please remember the last size.

2) change default width of preview window to something more useful. 150 px is unusable, so perhaps the best default setting would be to open not docked (as floating window).

I'm a bit unsure about this may lead to other issues and more code, so if in doubt, don't implement #2.

3) The address bar sometimes don't change if I previously have used the "lock" pushpin. Sometimes, the address bar keeps showing "about:blank".

4) Add tooltips on forward/back/"lock"-pushpin/options/"pipe through command" and "reload now" buttons

5) Select entire content in location bar when focusing location bar. This will make it easy to copy address to external browsers.

6) Implement the usual browser keyboard shortcuts so that they work when the preview window has focus (whether docked or floating window):
- backspace
- alt+arrow left
- alt+arrow right
- ctrl+R
- alt+D
- ctrl+F
(basically just send any keypresses to the browser engine running in the preview window)

7) Location bar should have memory of previously entered addresses. I'm uncertain about if it should also include all shown URLs... Would that be too many? What do you think of this?

8) "Pipe through command" have a select button [...] after the field, so that it is possible to select any file without knowing it's exact name.

9) This is probably a big one, so ignore this if it takes too long time or if nobody else want it (i can live without). Let me be able to select preview engine. IE7 (default), Firefox, Opera, IE6, IE5.5, IE5 would be really cool. Topstyle does this in a good way, but as I recall, there are issues with adding other rendering engines as substitute for the "internal" rendering.

10) Add shortcut to preview in external browser. (there is currently a shortcut to "open document in running browser(s)" in the HTML bundle). But in reality, I need more like an "open with browser..." and a menu to choose from (and possibility to add to). Like
Open with browser...
1: IE7
2: Firefox 2
3: Opera
4: IE6
And so on. Then provide a way to add a new browser, say, if I install webkit or Firefox 3.



Please put any comments here. I'll make a related bugtracker when this issue has matured for a few days. So please comment with your opinions and suggestions :)

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n00ge
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:20 pm Reply with quote
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Great ideas jesperrr. I agree that the tool is very useful, but definitely needs some more functionality built in. I would really like to see some development tools built in as well. Some of the functionality built into the Web Development toolbar or Firebug would be great.

I'm not sure if Mozilla's work w/ Prism would help bring that into e easier, but in case you guys haven't checked it out, here's a link:
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Prism

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jesperrr
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:42 pm Reply with quote
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n00ge: The new Topstyle 3.5 has exactly the features your're looking for. It has a spy for showing css aplied rules directly in the preview window, and it's fantastic for that.

I am not sure that E-texteditor will get to that point for now, but that's Alexanders decision. So if you really find it useful, consider looking closer at Topstyle. It's only three times as expensive as E, but a bargain for the functionality.

Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with Topstyle or E, so the above reflects my personal opinion.

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jesperrr
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:51 pm Reply with quote
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By the way, Prism sounds very interesting. Thanks for bringing it to my attention :)

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n00ge
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:55 pm Reply with quote
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The funny thing about those features in Topstyle are that they are just javascript bookmarklets that they offered up for people to use in their browsers as well. Just having a few javascript bookmarklets as buttons in there would be great.

Here are a few that I have come across and find useful:

Design: "utilities for grid layout, measurement and alignment"
http://sprymedia.co.uk/article/Design

ReCSS: reload the css for the file without refreshing the page
http://dojotoolkit.org/~david/recss.html

XRAY: view details on elements in a page
http://www.westciv.com/xray/index.html

MRI: test and play with selectors
http://www.westciv.com/mri/

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jesperrr
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:37 pm Reply with quote
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Wow, thanks for the impressives links to bookmarklets. I better add them to my collection of
"web site investigation toolbox"
http://justaddwater.dk/2007/10/12/web-site-investigation-toolbox-update/

However, none of the links you mention, looks like the "box spy" of TopStyle. I really would appreciate the inclusion of a hover tool that could be activated/deactivated (like box spy or firebug's "inspect element")

But it has to show both margins and padding (and border) seperately, and that's the strength with topstyle's box spy and firebug's inspector.

Am i missing something in the links you provided?

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n00ge
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:45 pm Reply with quote
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"However, none of the links you mention, looks like the "box spy" of TopStyle."
I got mixed up. I was thinking of TopStyle and StyleMaster as the same app. I think the StyleMaster guys created a couple of those bookmarklets for use in their app.

Regardless, I think some of those tools and some others could be very useful and, hopefully, not too tough to throw in.

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